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Both Agreements and DisagreementsWhen death is caused by a potentially painful and sudden event, often the spirit of an individual removes itself from the body and the body does not have any physical pain and discomfort.

AgreeSouls often leave their human hosts moments before actual death when their bodies are in great pain.

Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives, Michael Newton
pg. 10, 1996

Agree...before death the same applies, where some individuals remove their focus from physical life, leaving the body consciousness alone. Others stay with the body until the last moment.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 195, 1994

AgreeMrs. Rhys Davids said: "For an hour, roughly speaking, before the heart stops, the 'man' will have left his dying body and be standing near, 'encased' in the emerged other-body. Any commotions of a purely physical nature in the dying body are purely 'reflex'. Of these, the man feels nothing" (Mrs. Rhys Davids, What is Your Will?, pg 168)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 20-21, 1974

AgreeAnother communicator said: "Much of the apparent suffering of a deathbed is not felt...His real life is already half-retired from the body." (Jane Sherwood, The Country Beyond, pg 26)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 21, 1974

AgreeAnother stated: "Death, which seems so painful to those who watch it, is not painful to us; no more painful than the convulsions of the medium to her when trance is coming on. The soul, in both cases, is cast out of the body: the action of the body is merely a reflex action. The soul can actually look at the body as it dies."

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 21, 1974

AgreeSome of the statements made by those whose death was enforced are similar to those made by men who died naturally (e.g. (1) they felt little, if any, physical pain; (2) the shedding of the body caused no more than a momentary coma, "blackout", etc.; (3) the fact that they had permanently vacated the body ('died') was often unrealized for some time; (4) many saw their own bodies; (5) they suffered from any undue grief on the part of still-embodied friends; (6) they could not make (non-psychic) mortals see or hear them and (7) some at first wondered if they might be dreaming.

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 21-22, 1974

AgreeThe following are typical statements by those whose death was enforced. (1) "I awoke from a deep sleep. Bewildered, I got to my feet, and, looking down, saw my body among many others on the ground. I remembered the battle, but did not realize I had been shot. I was apart from, yet I still seemed held in some way to the body. My condition was one of terrible unrest; how was it that I was alive and had a body and was not yet apart from the covering I had thought constituted my body? I looked about. Others of the seeming dead moved. Then many of them stood up and, like me, seemed to emerge from their Physical Bodies, for their forms still lay upon the field. Soon I found myself among thousands in a similar mental state: none knew just what had happened. I did not know then, as I know now, that I always possessed a Spirit Body and that the Physical Body was only the garment it wore in earth-life. While the passing-out from this old body is without pain, it is a terrible thing to drive a strong spirit from a healthy body, to tear it from its covering. It is unnatural, and the sensation following re-adjustment is awful. In a short time I became easier, but I was still bewildered. It was neither night nor day; about us all was gloom. Something like an atmosphere, dark and red, enveloped us all. We seemed to hear one another think. Soon there was a ray of light that grew brighter each moment and then a great concourse of men with kindly faces came and, with comforting words, told us not to fear-that we had made the great change, that the war for us was over...I will not tell you of the sorrow that came with such realization, sorrow for wife. Her great grief, when she learned what had happened, bound me to her condition. We sorrowed together. I could not progress, or find happiness, until time had healed her sorrow. (Edward C. Randall, Frontiers of the After Life, 1922)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 22-23, 1974

Agree"There was a crash and a blackness. It was not really pain as most people think of pain-a rending crash and then gone...I lay quiet and pictures came before me of myself as a little boy...Then I saw a car coming. I saw it brake and push something along the road. I looked, and it was my body. I looked at myself and saw my own body [double] seeming quite real and solid...Suddenly I saw Grandpapa, standing smiling all lit up, and knew I was killed. I said at once, 'Then mother was right-I have got an etheric body!' I felt terribly muddled and confused. Then came the thought of you...so I began to walk along the road...You opened the window and called, but did not see me. Yet I could see what you were thinking-how frightened you were! Suddenly I remembered what you said-that spirits can go through matter. I said, 'Here goes! and ran at the door-and passed right through it. I tried it two or three times...I shall be at the funeral tomorrow...I am still mixed up with the earth." (Alice Gilbert, Philip in Two Worlds, 1948, pg 89)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 24, 1974

Agree"When as the result of a fall, Joyce aged 18, 'passed over', she didn't feel much pain; transition seemed 'very natural'...I found I could visit you (mother) but couldn't understand why you didn't talk to me. I saw a lot of people when I was passing, but they weren't clear. I was not able to think at first: I merely felt things were happening. It never occurred to me that I was dead...I had no sensation of traveling when I passed over. I rested for a bit yet it was not sleep in the ordinary sense, for I was seeing people all the time." (G. Vivian, Love Conquers Death, pp 19, 91)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 24, 1974

Agree"I felt a terrible blow on my head, a sensation of dizziness and of falling, then nothing more...Consciousness returned...A kindly doctor came to my bedside and said, 'I want to have a talk with you...You have passed out of the physical body and are in the state you used to know as having died' I could not believe him...Then a gentleman came to speak to me who, I was told, was my grandfather. But I had never seen him before and was not convinced. I felt as if I were living in a dream...The doctor promised that I should be sent to you [his incarnate mother], that the truth might be proved to me...Two friends guided me through the astral plane to the earth. As we came nearer the earth the atmosphere became thicker and misty and the houses and everything seemed indistinct. The view disappeared. I found myself standing in your room...I called, 'Mummy, I'm here! Can't you see or hear me? You made no reply...You have only to concentrate your thoughts on me and they will reach me." (Mrs. L. Kelway, Claude's Book, 1918, pg 2)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 25, 1974

Agree"Something struck hard...I fell and found myself outside myself! What a small incident this dying is!...You see what a small thing death is, even the violent death of war!...If there be a shock, it is not the shock of physical death. Shock comes later when comprehension dawns: 'Where is my body? Surely I am not dead?'...I was so little dead that I imagined I was still [physically]alive. I had been struck by a shell-splinter. There was no pain...I had thrown my overcoat away. The coat was my body. I felt free and light. I am still evidently in a body of some sort. After I had recovered from the shock of realizing I was dead, I was above the battlefield. It seemed as if I was floating in a mist that muffled sound and blurred the vision. Everything was distant, misty, unreal. [Since he had not, as yet, shed the 'vehicle of vitality', his consciousness remained enshrouded and therefore 'sub-normal', while his environment was the illusory 'Hades' conditions]. I think I fell asleep for the second time [=a second momentary coma, the 'second death', due to shedding the 'vehicle of vitality']. At last I awokd [in the un-enshrouded Soul Body]. I am alive...'Life' is strangely similar to earthlife." (W.T. Pole, Private Dowding, 1917, pg 13)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 25-26, 1974

AgreeI was suddenly shot out of the body. I felt no pain. I had a good look at my body. I could not wrench myself away from it immediately. I accompanied it when it was carried off by stretcher-bearers. (Dr. Hereward Carrington, Psychical Phenomena and the War, 1918, p 240)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 26, 1974

AgreeI felt nothing, only a nasty knock, and turned to look for the fellow who had struck me. I knew no more. I fell asleep. Then I saw lots of my friends, all smiling at me. A brother officer stretched out his hand, saying, 'Come along, old chap!' I took his hand and knew that I had passed to where war is no more...Things seemed familiar. Many places I had often visited in my dreams... (Lilian Walbrook, The Case of Lester Coltman, 1924, p xiv)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 26, 1974

AgreeWe went 'over the top'....It was twenty minutes before I realized that I had 'passed over'. During that time, although my Physical Body was lying on the field, I went on with the attacking party, thinking I was still alive [=in physical embodiment]. I then found that those around me could not see me and went back and saw my body, lying dead' (Lilian Walbrook, The Case of Lester Coltman, 1924, p 25)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 26, 1974

AgreeThey must not think I really suffered...I couldn't feel the controls, but I was still in flight. Awfully queer it seemed-no pain and all this blackness. Suddenly it lifted and then I saw I was floating through what seemed space without a parachute. I soon met people who told me I had survived in another life. (Geraldine Cummins, Mind in Life and Death, 1956)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 27, 1974

Agree'Nigel', killed in a 'plane, had "no recollection of agonising pain". He saw "a blaze of light" and then "thought he was travelling down a dark tunnel." (Geraldine Cummins, Unseen Adventures, 1951, p 45)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 27, 1974

Agree"The 'plane crashed into the sea, but he was out of his body before it touched the water." (Frieda Hohenner-Parker, A Crusader Here and There, 1952, pg 67)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 27, 1974

AgreeThe airman son of Mrs. Rhys Davids, whose plane was hit, communicated and assured her that he had had no pain in dying. On the basis of numerous communications which she subsequently received from those who suffered enforced transition, Mrs. Davids said: "Even when death has been apparently less instantaneous, as in drowning, in hanging, in burning, etc., I have been told the same: they felt no struggle nor any pain." She added, "It would appear that, when the summons has come, the 'man' is not left in the body to wrestle for life but is emerging from it, leaving the struggle a purely mechanical one. The struggle by the 'man' takes place only when the period of death is to be warded off" (The information received by Mrs. Davids agrees with individual descriptions of death by drowning, etc., examined by the present writer and exemplified in the Third Part of this book: one person said, "I had no feeling of distress once I had given up the struggle...") (Mrs. Rhys Davids, What is Your Will?, pg 169)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 29, 1974

AgreeThe communicator of S. Bedford stated: "To understand what occurs to people suddenly killed by an accident, one must realize two things. First, that at the actual moment of death everything happens at terrific speed, because the soul is passing on to a world in which we move on a much higher vibration. Secondly, that our soul-consciousness is very much ahead of our physical-consciousness. So, when instant death occurs through an accident, the soul is aware of what is about to happen a split second before the impact occurs, and leaves the body. The soul having left, no pain is felt. In the case of sudden death we do not lose consciousness because the soul has already left the body. A soldier, for example, receiving a bullet in the brain, would feel nothing, but would find himself looking at what a spit second ago was his body. These sudden transitions appear tragic and ghastly to the onlooker, but to the person has just died, death is always wonderful." Again, (speaking of natural, as well as of enforced death): "The convulsive movements of the body often seen at death in no way touch the soul; they are merely the outward reflections of the nervious reaction as the Spirit leaves the body. Even though the body be convulsive, our real self [the soul] has already left the body and so we feel nothing." He considered that "This simple fact should be understood." (Death-an Interesting Journey, Alcuin Press, pg 66, 144)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 29, 1974

Agree"He shows me the car rolling over several times, as it rolls off the side of the road and down a sloped embankment." I turn to look directly at his mom. "He wants you to know he passed instantly, his neck snapped. He did not feel anything."..."He says you need to hear that because they did not find his car until the next morning and you had always been worried that he had lay there all night in pain and dying. You were afraid he was trapped in the car. He is telling me the car looked like a crumpled piece of tin foil. He says he wants you to know it was quick. He was out of his body before he even realized what had happened."

The Messenger, Denise Lescano
pg. 74, 2014

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