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Random murder with no prior agreement Agree: 9 divider Disagree: 0


Both Agreements and DisagreementsSome individuals who have been murdered cannot move from those feelings of anger and sadness and cling to their human life and are not willing to accept their transformation into spirit. No matter how much the spirit guides and angels and loved ones try to help them cross over, they are unwilling to do so. This is one source of the souls that are known as ghosts.

AgreeKardec discussion: "This state of confusion takes on special aspects depending on individual character and manner of death. In cases of violent or sudden death--by suicide, capital punishment, accident, stroke, etc. - the spirit is often astounded, doesn't believe itself to be dead, and stubbornly persists in asserting the contrary."

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 96, 2003

AgreeYou may after death utterly refuse to believe that you are dead, and continue to focus your emotional energy toward those you have known in life.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 130, 1994

Agree...these conditions are also impediments to the time of choosing [between life state]. It goes without saying that an obsession with earthly concerns also acts in the same manner. In such instances, often the personality will insist upon focusing his perceptive abilities and energies toward physical existence...The individual knows quite well that he is dead in your terms, but he refuses to complete the psychic separation. There are instances of course where the individuals concerned do not realize the fact of death. It is not a matter of refusing to accept it, but a lack of perception. In this state such an individual will also be obsessed with earthly concerns, and wander perhaps bewildered throughout his own home or surroundings. The time of choosing [between life state] will, of course, necessarily be postponed.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 160, 1994

AgreeSuch is the state of spiritual enlightenment of the earth that in many cases these folk are completely unaware that they have died. That means simply that they have never ceased to live there has been an unbroken continuity of life for them, as indeed there is for all of us. This situation frequently arises among people who pass into the spirit world suddenly and perhaps without warning. Their lack of knowledge of conditions existing in the spirit world produces this state of bewilderment, and if there is added to that ignorance also the fact that, during their earthly life, they never gave any heed to a future life in the spirit world, then their situation becomes a doubly unhappy one. But there is in the spirit world a vast organization of all its immense resources, and it must not be thought that these bewildered souls are left to shift for themselves. They are soon taken in hand by others long resident in spirit lands?as you judge time?who devote their spirit lives to such work. Our task is often a difficult one because it is not always easy for the soul to grasp what has happened. The mental equipment of the individual may cause a reluctance to accept the truth. On the other hand, those who are mentally alert will soon see for themselves the exact situation. If only knowledge of the laws and conditions of spirit life were universally diffused throughout the earth world, what a wealth of difference it would make to each soul as he came to reside in these lands.

Here and Hereafter, Anthony Borgia
pg. Chap1, 1968

Agree'Lancelot', who died aged eight, like Mr. Potter's communicator (p.22) and a 'Guide' (p.31) contrasted natural with enforced death. He said, "Those who want to take their bodies with them" [adding that this applies to "people who are suddenly killed when they are quite well", as well as to those who have lived "earthly lives"] tend to become "earth-spirits" immediately after death-"They can't get away from the body". He explained, "People give out a sort of fluid-stuff called ectoplasm [from the 'vehicle of vitality'] and they make a shape of it that is like their earth-form; they don't want it when they learn to do without it, so they often leave it off almost at once [=they shed the vehicle of vitality] and it goes on in the place where they left it going on, doing over and over again what they last did with it: it isn't anything to matter because it is only ectoplasm, a sort of matter-thing [a 'ghost'. 'wraith', or 'astral shell'] and not anything of mind in it at all. 'Lancelot' then contrasted this 'earthbound', or 'Hades', state with that produced by natural death: he said, "They just go to sleep; they are so glad to be free when they awake. (Letters from Lancelot, Dunstan, 1931, pg 75)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 28, 1974

AgreeThe Christian mystic Sadhu Sundar...was told: "Sometimes, after accident, the spirt departs while the body is still unconscious. Then, those spirits who have lived without thought of entering the Spiritual World...are extremely bewildered...So they have to remain for a considerable period in the lower and darker planes of the intermediate state. (Sadhu Sundar, Visions of the Spiritual World, 1926, pg. 6)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 29, 1974

Agree[Denise to her friend Kelly] "Your mother is here, but first before we speak with her there is someone else here too. I cannot get around him so I would like to try and identify him and bring him through first...He is very insistent. He is a young man and good looking from what I can tell, with dark hair and my guess looks to be around twenty-two or twenty-four. He is just very clear to is almost like I am looking at him through static, like a TV screen. He is very upset and is telling me he was shot. Do you know who this is? He is still earthbound and has not crossed over yet like your mom has, he is here, standing right there...I feel like he has not been passed long, maybe a few weeks...He says his name is Walt...Walter?" [Neither could remember who he was]. He then vanished and I was able to move on to her mother. [week later]...William walked in..."Hey William, what's up? Where have you been? I haven't seen you in a while"...What he told me next was not something that I was at all prepared to hear..."well I have been out of town for awhile and I just got back this week. I have been in New York. Walter's (24 year old son) funeral was last week."..William turned and walked to the door...It was all making sense now, all coming back to me-the reading with Kelly and Walter (week before). He was trying to come through to Kelly and me. He knew I was going to see his dad and he wanted to get a message through to him. The lights flickering in the house, the light bulb exploding, the computers turning on and off, my feelings of being depressed, sad and overwhelmed all week, the nausea - it all made sense now. He was trying to get through to me and he was still earthbound, he had not yet crossed over.

The Messenger, Denise Lescano
pg. pgs. 96-98, 2014

AgreeWalter was the first earthbound spirit that I had seen and spoke with...Until this point, I had only connected with spirits who were crossed over and on the spirit side of life, but Walter was still here in the physical world. He was sad, scared and distraught so his energy level was very low and on a very low frequency which explained why I was having a hard time getting a clear picture of him and why he seemed to be in "static"...His presence in my home all week and the intensity of his emotional state had been draining my own energy to the point of making me physically ill...I went home, focused and sat down to talk to Walter...Walter was very sad and feeling bad about the decision he had made....Something went wrong with the deal and he was shot in the street at point blank range...He could not get over what he had done to his parents, now that he could see how much they were suffering. He wanted to talk with his dad to tell him all the things he was telling me...

The Messenger, Denise Lescano
pg. pg. 99, 2014

AgreeAs Walter sat in a chair...his grandmother appeared standing behind him and the chair. She came to take him over to the spirit side although he had not wanted to go...After some coaxing, he did go into the light as we say, and home with his grandmother.

The Messenger, Denise Lescano
pg. pg. 99, 2014 Source

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I... I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.

—Robert Frost