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Both Agreements and DisagreementsWhen the spirit decides it is going to be that human, the soul begins its development then inside the fetus, even at the beginning of conception. The transformation from spirit to human is the aspect of a new soul, a new personality, a new ego being created. Though spirit is always who you are and is always with you, it is not in a conscious form as your soul is. And your soul is the makeup of your humanness.

AgreeAt some point prior to birth, the soul will carefully touch and join more fully with the impressionable, developing brain of a baby...Depending upon the inclinations of the particular soul involved, the connection may be early or late in the mother's pregnancy. I have had cases where souls timed their arrival at the last minute during delivery, but this is unusual. My findings indicate even those souls who join the baby early seem to do a lot of traveling outside the mother's womb during her term.

Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives, Michael Newton
pg. 266-267, 1996

AgreeThe soul and brain of a new baby appear to begin their association as two separate and distinct entities and become one mind....Although the physical organism of the body will die, the soul who occupied that body never forgets the host which allowed them to experience Earth in a particular time and place.

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. 385, 2003

AgreeWhen a soul joins with a new baby, I can be fairly sure the partnership will address both the soul's shortcomings and a body-mind who needs this particular soul. The planners choose bodies for us which are intended to combine our character defects with certain body temperaments to produce specific personality combinations

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. 388, 2003

AgreeSome personalities are drawn to enter at conception...Other personalities who never completely take to earthly existence may hold off full entry for some time, and even then always remain at a certain distance from the body.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 195, 1994

AgreeVarious methods of entry are adopted. If there is a strong relationship between the parents and the child-to-be, then the personality may enter at the point of conception if he is extremely anxious to rejoin them. Even here, however, large portions of self-awareness continue to operate in the between-life dimension.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 194, 1994

AgreeThe fetus does have its own astral from. Now, this astral form belongs to the individual, the personality as it will be in this life. It is not the astral that existed in a 'previous' reincarnation... There is great energy connected with the fetus, for at no other time in physical life is so much energy utilized so purposefully and so well directed. It is this charge of energy of truly cosmic proportion that allows for the initial breakthrough into matter. The personality is busy transforming literally infinite data. Much of this work has already been done by the third month of pregnancy. As quickly as the new data forms the fetus and physical structure, the self from the previous reincarnation must begin to withdraw its hold. It enters briefly into this process (of birth) but it does not become the new individual. It helps form the new individual and then it must withdraw. The new self unit must be free and not hampered by the demands that could otherwise be put upon it. The new individual has a deeply buried memory of its past lives, but the personal consciousness of the last reincarnated self must not be superimposed upon this new identity. The new personality, in its small astral body, does visit with other portions of the entire identity. It is even given lessons of a kind, but it is very much its own self.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 289-290, 2001

AgreeAs to the timing of incarnation, Newton's subjects report entering the fetus usually from somewhere between five months into pregnancy right up until just before birth, with the onus on the soul itself to choose the timing. Wambach provides considerable details in her survey, finding that eighty-nine per cent of her subjects did not enter the fetus until six months into pregnancy, while thirty-three percent of these delayed until just before or even during, birth. Of the other eleven per cent, quite a few suggested they entered as early as the point of conception. She also found that souls appear to know if a child is going to be born prematurely, and make sure they enter in time, even if in something of a rush. Whitton's subjects report that they enter between several months before birth to as late as just after it, while Cannon's subjects report entering any time from conception right up until some days after birth. Perhaps the most balanced view is Modi's, who! se patients describe entering properly at any time between conception and the birth itself, but also suggest that they place a least some of their soul energy into the fetus at conception.

The Book of the Soul: Rational Spirituality for the 21st Century, Ian Lawton
pg. 151, 2004

AgreeCannon: Under normal circumstances, can you tell me at what point or at what time in the progress of the human physical development does the soul or spirit inhabit the body? Spirit: It is at that point at which the spirit chooses to inhabit. It could be at the precise moment of fertilization or conception, or perhaps some time removed from the birth experience, so as not to have to experience the trauma of birth. It is entirely up to that individual spirit's choice.

Between Death & Life: Conversations with a Spirit, Dolores Cannon
pg. 225-226, 1993

Agree...there is no rule, then, saying that the reincarnating personality must take over the new form prepared for it either at the point of conception, in the very earliest months of the fetus's growth, or even at the point of birth...If there is a strong relationship between the parents and the child-to-be, then the personality may enter at the point of conception if he is extremely anxious to rejoin them. Even here, however, large portions of self-awareness continue to operate in the between-life dimension....If the new personality has not entered earlier to any full extent, it usually does so at birth, in order to stabilize the new organism. It comforts the new organism, in other words.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 229,231, 1994

AgreeQuestion 344: When does the spirit unite with the body? Answer: The union begins at conception it is complete only with birth. From the moment of conception, the spirit assigned to animate a given body is united with that body by the perispirit, which brings spirit and body closer and closer as the moment of birth approaches. When that moment arrives, the infant's cry announces that it is now among the living.

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 157-158, 2003

AgreeQuestion 345: Is the union between the spirit and the body final from the moment of conception? Could the spirit, during the early stages of union, suddently refuse to animate the body? Answer: The union is definitive in one sense no other spirit can replace the one who has been chosen to inhabit that particular body. But, since the link that holds the two together is weak at first, it is easily broken and may be severed if the spirit wills it-that is, if it draws back from the trial. In that case, the child dies.

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 158, 2003

AgreeSouls join their assigned hosts in the womb of the baby's mother sometime after the third month of pregnancy so they will have a sufficiently evolved brain to work with before term...After birth, an amnesiac memory block sets in and souls meld their immortal character with the temporary human mind to produce a combination of traits for a new personality.

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. , 2003

Agree...I have never had a single case where a soul joined the fetus in the first tremester. The reason that souls do not begin their complex merger with a fetus under three months is quite simply because there is not enough brain tissue for them to work with at this stage.

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. , 2003

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