Research Issues: The Afterlife
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Very few of my subjects have the memory capacity to go back to their origins as particles of energy. Some details of a soul's early life come to me from the rank beginners. Destiny of Souls, p.125
There are energy fragments: which appear to return to the energy mass that created them before they even reach the nursery..., who have individual soul essences that are not inclined, or have the necessary mental fabric, to incarnate in physical form on any world..., with individual soul essences who incarnate only on physical worlds,...who are souls with the ability and inclination to incarnate and function as individuals in all types of physical and mental environments Destiny of Souls, pp. 132-133
I have learned there seems to be a kind of spirit world maternity ward for newborn souls. Journey of Souls. p.127
The most revealing reports about soul nurseries come my way only infrequently from a very few highly advanced subjects. These are the specialists known as Incubator Mothers. Destiny of Souls, p.126
The grand scheme for the newborn soul starts slowly. Once they are released from the nursery, these souls do not enter into incarnations, nor are they even formed into soul groups right away. Destiny of Souls, p.133
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: Can you describe the process by which an initial "spark" of energy is created which ultimately becomes an evolving spirit?
Spirit Guide: The Creator takes this spark of energy. Highly evolved spirit guides work with this energy for it to come to earth to be a human being or to other planets to be a humanoid. A spirit will come to the earth for the first time and it will be returned to earth much differently from reincarnating. The initial time it has come to live as a humanoid is generally a very difficult time and it needs life's experiences to help it evolve into a more conscious being through reincarnations.
Question: Are some such "sparks" returned immediately to their source because they are not considered suitable for evolution as a spirit on a physical world?
Spirit Guide: Only the Creator has a say-so in that regarding the first incarnation when this spark of energy becomes a humanoid.
Question: Do you believe that under some circumstances such a spark would not evolve?
Spirit Guide: We do not have that vision. The Creator always believes in its creation. So no matter what the spark of energy may encounter upon a place as the earth, from the very beginning of its creation it always has choices in which it will continue with this soul and others.
Question: So it would not be returned immediately back to the source?
Spirit Guide: No, it would not but it is always united with the source.
Question: Is there an environment similar to a nursery where newborn spirits grow initially?
Spirit Guide: No, we do not see this. The Creator has all spirits of its own creation and whether they be old spirits or first-time spirits there is not, as you would say, a nursery.
Question: Are there highly-advanced specialized spirits who support these newborn spirits during their initial phase prior to coming to earth?
Spirit Guide: There are always highly evolved spirits. Whether they be angels, spirit guides, they are always with and trying to help the energy that is becoming third-dimensional energy.
Question: With such a new spirit, what sorts of evolutionary steps are taken before they could, say for example, come to earth?
Spirit Guide: When God, the Creator, chooses this little spark of energy it does not come immediately to earth. It is given information on life as a humanoid from many evolved beings so that the new spirit who comes to earth would have some knowledge and understanding of what it is to be a human on earth. After it has come to earth on its initial life, its return visits will become different because it will not need as much information as required upon its first visit. But there are always spirits and angels, highly evolved beings, who will always help with the reincarnation.
Discussion
The spirit guides have a somewhat different view of the initial creation process for a human spirit compared with those of the subjects of Michael Newton's works. The spirit guides emphasize the critical role of the Creator and His determination to see His creation reach life on earth. The question of the existence of a nursery may just be a question of definition and wording. The spirit guides indicate that help from very advanced spiritual beings is available for the newly evolving spark of energy just as would be the case in a "nursery".
Reuniting with Energy Left in Heaven
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The usual way most souls reunite with the balance of their energy is after returning to a cluster group. Destiny of Souls, p.121
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: What is the process by which a spirit who has crossed over will reunite with the energy essence which was left in the spirit world during the incarnation period?
Spirit Guide: It does not just reunite with its former energy, most recent energy. It reunites with all of the past energies it has been. It does this sometime after its earth connections begin to disconnect at the center of its being and, as it begins to acclimate to being a full spirit, it will then most likely in its spirit family reunite with all of its residual energy and will become a full spirit.
Discussion
The spirit guides agree with Newton's results that the most probable location for the energy consolidation of the spirit after crossing over is in the spirit family group.
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Soul groups range between three and twenty-five members, with the average having about fifteen. Destiny of Souls, p.4
I want to summarize what I have learned about the basic principles of soul group assignments: Primary clusters in Levels I and II may split into smaller subgoups for study, but are not separated from the integrated whole within a single cluster of souls. Journey of Souls, pp. 105-106
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: What are the typical sizes of spiritual family groups which are initially formed and what governs the size that is selected for a group?
Spirit Guide: We cannot say for sure the size of the group because we see a very large, one hundred or more, together in a family unit, but we see that family unit then divided. The reason it is divided but still a family unit is because many members in that family evolve faster than other spirits. And as they become more highly evolved, and they reincarnate more often, there will become a time that they will split off and become another family with others who are as highly evolved as they are.
Question: Is there some smaller spirit family group that involves spirits that relate much more closely over various periods of incarnation than when would be the case, with say a family group of 100, is there like five or ten?
Spirit Guide: There are endless large families, as we have said, groups which you wish to call them, that would have evolved higher than other groups within that same family. And whether the spirits within the one family grow or do not grow will determine their evolution as a spirit and where they will be placed in their spirit family in which, as they become so highly evolved, they will become a part of a much higher evolved family. There are those who do not want to go back to earth to do the work as often, there are those who come back to earth after many reincarnations and just do not want to do any more work at all, and they will remain within that main family until they have chosen to totally discontinue their work or until they decide they wish to return to earth to help their evolution more quickly.
Question: When my mother, for example, crossed over and then ultimately rejoined her family group, was that family group a large number of individuals or was there a smaller group that she currently belongs to that are interacting continuously?
Spirit Guide: There are both. She has been back enjoying her large family group and then went to her smaller, more compatible group and evolution of her consciousness. Oftentimes the large multi-family group is not known to those of you on earth and explained so that it does not become confusing.
Discussion
There is no basic disagreement between Newton's works and the material provided by the spirit guides here. The terms "group" and "family" seem to be used interchangeably. The larger group (or family) contains quite a number of smaller units, the membership of which can change if differential individual spirit evolution takes place.
An interesting result of this view of spiritual families is that there may be people who are only slightly involved in one's human life but those ties may endure over many reincarnational cycles and both in the material and the spiritual world.
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Some souls seem to have a natural gift for working with energy in their creation classes. My cases indicate ability in creation assignments does not mean a soul is at the same level of advancement in all other areas of the spiritual curricula. A soul may be a good technician in harnessing the forces of creation, but lack the subtle techniques of a competent guide. Journey of Souls, p.168
All souls are given the opportunity to participate in the development of lower forms of intelligent life in order to advance themselves. This principle could also be applied to the reason why souls incarnate in physical form. ...the supreme intelligence she calls the source is made up of a combination of creators (the Old ones) who fuse their energy to spawn universes. The thought has been expressed to me in different ways by other subjects when they describe the combined power of non-reincarnating old souls. Journey of Souls, pp. 188-189
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: What is the process by which spirits are able to create anything, using energy, that would appear either in the spirit world or in a physical world?
Spirit Guide: We assume you are talking about your scientists and your research works?
Question: I'm speaking more broadly. Like a creation of a planet or creating the initial form of a tree or creating an initial evolving animal. Is there a process which spirits are able to do that causes that creation to take place? Perhaps extremely advanced spirits having that creation capability?
Spirit Guide: The creation capability is by God, your Creator. Those upon earth who work in labs for either animal husbandry, or human or agricultural, who create new breeds, are only creating something that was initially from the Creator, God, for nothing that man does has ever started out by man alone because always the initial creation is by God.
Question: So there are not, if you like, some old ones--extremely capable advanced spiritual entities--that create things like new planets?
Spirit Guide: Not to our understanding there is not. There are many, many old souls, very wise souls, or spirits, but we do not see them creating planets themselves.
Question: Spirits in the spirit world are able to create environments and other things just by the force of their will. Can you explain how a spirit is able to create things that become visible or available in heaven?
Spirit Guide: It is because they are not really creating. They are going back and pulling out past experiences that they would like to either repeat that past experience or add to the experience. So they are not creating anything new but reviewing their past spirit lives, not just their current one, but any of their past spirit lives, and are able to bring those images forward for themselves just as you would with a camera or a video or other ways of seeing experiences. We will continue to say there is only one Creator for He created the very first of anything and everything and then all is built on from there by spirit soul's experiences.
Question: If you take a lower form of intelligent life, let's say a bird, do spirits participate in the creation of such an intelligent life, or is it the Creator that creates the initial--
Spirit Guide: That is the Creator that creates the initial one.
Discussion
There is a significant difference between the views of Michael Newton's research subjects and those of the spirit guides speaking here. The latter have no knowledge of the existence of wise old non-reincarnating souls who have the capability of creating such large, complex objects as planets. This may indicate that these old souls do not actually exist. The other important point that the spirit guides make is that the Creator is directly responsible for the initial creation of all intelligent life.
In the spirit world, the point is made that "objects" are not created but the environment, the energy, the vision of objects is that which is created.
Use of Thoughts and Dreams to Transmit Information
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When souls have difficulty reaching the mind of a troubled adult they might resort to using children as conduits for their messages. Destiny of Souls, p. 31
One of the primary ways the newly departed soul uses to reach people who love them is through the dream state. Destiny of Souls, p. 22
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: If spirits wish to transmit information to the mind of a troubled adult, could they use children for conduits for their messages?
Spirit Guide: They could use anything. They could use animals, and flowers, trees, there are so many ways that the spirit energy on earth can receive messages and spirit guides who are those highly evolved in the spirit world will find what is most nearest to that individual and will use that experience to help enlighten the individual.
Question: Does the newly departed spirit often use the dream state in order to transmit information to people who love them?
Spirit Guide: Yes, very much. More so than many other ways because in the dream state the humanoid is more open and relaxed to receive those messages.
Discussion
The spirit guides seem to be in close agreement with the subjects of Michael Newton's research in these examples of spirit communication with humans.
Spirit Inter-Dimensional Travel & Encounters with Other Non-Physical Entities
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Quite a number of my subjects have told me that between their lives on Earth they travel as discarnates to other worlds both in and out of our dimension. Some explain that they see other nonphysical entities on these trips. Destiny of Souls, p.69
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: In the spirit world, can travel be performed as a spirit to other physical worlds? As an example, if I were in the spirit world could I travel in some sense as a spirit to a planet that I may have lived on in other reincarnations?
Spirit Guide: We have an understanding that it is not very normal for a spirit to travel from its home family to places other than earth where they have lived other past lives. But we are only referring at this time to spirits who have most recently crossed over from earth. We have not gone into spirits who have come from other planets to know a whole lot about what they are doing in their spirit life. So, we cannot state as much for other spirit beings, other than those who are from earth, for that is our place of study and help.
Question: But a spirit who has incarnated on earth and returned to the spirit world, could it frequently travel to earth?
Spirit Guide: Yes, this is the case.
Question: Here's an associated question which would relate to spirits who have incarnated on earth. Can these spirits in heaven travel to worlds which are in higher dimensions than earth?
Spirit Guide: We only know at this time that they can observe other dimensions from places other than earth. They observe from their spirit families. If they have come from other places, generally speaking, they are being assisted by other spirit guides.
Question: And when I use the word travelling, do you feel that this really is observing as opposed to some sort of physical transport of a spiritual essence?
Spirit Guide: We believe that that is true. We believe there are other spirits who have only lived in one place but have had many lifetimes from that other world. They go back and forth to their home, their original home, or place where they were most happiest, and do the same things that many earth people do when they go back to earth still in spirit form. But we would say to you again, we do not know this for sure for we do not work with spirits from other worlds very often.
Question: Now, we have been told by you that the earth and people on earth some years hence are going to have a transition to a higher dimension--fourth or fifth dimension existence--and I presume that this means that there are currently dimensions such as this on which spirits or extraterrestrials reside, other than the three dimensional existence that we experience on earth. Is this so, is there a higher dimension that ET's and other spiritual entities live on, to your knowledge?
Spirit Guide: We believe this to be the truth. We believe as one moves into their higher consciousness they move with baby steps into other dimensions, are able to see into other dimensions which they are not able to do now or even want to now.
Question: If I had crossed over and were in the spirit world, and wished to observe a higher dimensional world than that which I came from, would I see any entities when I observed those worlds, either extraterrestrial or spiritual entities from our world here?
Spirit Guide: To our understanding, yes you would.
Discussion
The spirit guides indicate that they agree with the summary statement found in Michael Newton's work concerning spirit travel and the possibility of the existence of higher dimensions. A very interesting part of their response is the indication that they concentrate in their spirit guide role on spirits who incarnate on earth.
They indicate that spirit "travel" is really spirit "observation" as opposed to some form of spiritual transport.
On the very profound issue of the existence of higher dimensions, the spirit guides indicate that they believe these dimensions exist and currently are populated by spiritual and extraterrestrial entities.
Devil,Demonic Spirits and the Like?
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...my statements come from the reports of many hypnosis subjects in my practice. These subjects do not see the devil or demonic spirits floating around Earth. What they do feel when they are spirits is an abundance of negative human energy exuding the intense emotions of anger, hate and fear. Destiny of Souls, p.74
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: Are there demonic spirits or the devil floating around earth?
Spirit Guide: Yes, we believe very much so. There are some, not nearly as many as there were on earlier times, but yes, we believe there are such spirits that can and do come to earth.
Question: Now you believe that some entity called the devil, I think you have told us some time past, that the devil doesn't really exist per se as a spiritual entity. Do you still hold that view?
Spirit Guide: This is quite true. Those that are here in a demonic manner have very, very low energy and are always surrounded by very low energy.
Question: Do you experience some energies and feelings of anger, hate and fear that may be transmitted from some humans on earth?
Spirit Guide: Very rarely does that happen. We can say occasionally but we do not experience those feelings.
Question: I guess that is good for your well being?
Spirit Guide: This is so.
Discussion
The spirit guides take a position which is essentially opposite from the views obtained from Michael Newton's research subjects. The former indicate that in fact there are demonic spirits that occasionally come to earth and are characterized as having very low energy. The spirit guides also do not agree that human feelings of anger, hate and fear are projected from the earth in significant amounts.
These differing views cannot be reconciled.
Specialists in the Spirit World
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..advanced souls who are brand-new teachers in training. They are called the Nursery Teachers, or caretakers of children, because the young souls they work with have not yet begun their incarnations. Destiny of Souls, p.323
There is a great need for Ethnicist Souls. It can be said that there are reasons for the actions of some people turning out badly because of an underdeveloped soul co-existing with a disturbed human brain. Because of these conditions, our free will toward making good choices could be more inhibited. I have tried to show that in the spirit world souls do not use this argument as a valid excuse for the lack of control over emotions in a host body. Destiny of Souls, p.330
Souls in the general category of Harmonizers often incarnate as communicators working in a variety of capacities. When they are discarnated beings, I am told they work as restorers of disrupted energy on the face of the Earth. Incarnating Harmonizer Souls might be statesmen, prophets, inspirational messengers, negotiators, artists, musicians and writers...These souls are not healers in the traditional mode of working with individuals because Harmonizers function on a larger scale in attempting to diffuse negative energy. Destiny of Souls, pp. 330-331
The Master of Design trainees of my limited experience are assigned to work in a physical universe, frequently with uninhabited planets in the process of cooling after being formed out of stars. Those souls who are involved with the creation of life forms are engaged with worlds where new life is evolving. Destiny of Souls, p.334
I am certain there is intelligent thought behind the formation of all animate and inanimate objects. This observation comes from souls who use their light energy for conceiving, designing, and then manipulating the molecules and cell structure of living matter which possess the physical properties they want in finished form. Destiny of Souls, p.339
I consider most people who gain experience in different environments outside the spirit world between lives to be a type of Explorer Soul. They may be souls whose personal development requires in-depth experience on different worlds or simply recreational travelers. Destiny of Souls, p.344
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: To the extent they exist, are there specialized advanced spirits who work in the following areas and, if so, what do they do, and I am going to list some of these areas which other afterlife researchers have found to be so.
Question: Are there specialized advanced spirits who serve as caretakers of children in the spirit world?
Spirit Guide: Do you mean such as day care centers or as continuous living centers?
Question: I guess both or any that would be relevant, any that would serve. And if you could probably define a little bit more what you would associate with what it is, you say, that some specialized advanced spirits might be doing along those lines?
Spirit Guide: When a child spirit dies comes to spirit life from a traumatic death on earth, they often need much guidance and understanding and instead of living with their spirit family we find that they need the support of wiser and more patient older spirit guides to help them through their difficult times on earth.
Question: And during that time do those spirits that are receiving this help, do they have the image of children?
Spirit Guide: As a spirit being, do they have the image of a child?
Question: Yes, whatever that may mean.
Spirit Guide: Yes. In the spirit world you can tell the difference between wise spirits and a young spirit. And oftentimes the young spirits need more attention and guidance for their confusion than for the help and understanding why they had to die so violently.
Question: If I were a very advanced spiritual entity and I had crossed over from earth to the spirit world, because of some terrible accident when I was a young child as a human, I wouldn't necessily be gathered together with the other children that you described for a group handling, if you like, by advanced spirits?
Spirit Guide: This is true. Back on earth there are special cases with spirits that need much more attention and help and love. And there is a place for them not in the general community of spirits.
Question: We have often heard when people are in their spirit families on the other side that they occasionally attend something equivalent to classes which are taught. And the question I have, are there specialized advanced spirits who teach morality, values and standards of conduct in the spirit world?
Spirit Guide: We believe, most definitely, yes there are, though those are earth-like feelings and emotions. As you return from earth, you are given an opportunity to learn and study more to help in your own spiritual growth. There are many different spirits who specialize in different areas of education than higher consciousness.
Question: When major events take place on earth such as war and terrorist acts where many die, presumably that releases a great deal of negative energy that promulgates around the earth. And to your knowledge are there any specialized advanced spirits who are concerned with the earth energy as a whole and are trying to work to provide a more positive energy balance?
Spirit Guide: We believe there are very old and wise spirits who are working steadfastly on trying to help to improve earth and its people. Our purpose is to help the evolution, the conscious raising of earth people as fast as we can for positive life on earth, for the people of earth are rapidly eroding in their way of life.
Question: And you are speaking now of your own efforts as well of those of very, very old advanced spirits?
Spirit Guide: That is true. That is true of all the earth spirits. This is our purpose now to help you on earth still raise your consciousness. We hope we aren't too late.
Question: We do too. In our past discussions you have indicated that individual advanced spirits do not create planets or create the geology of planets, and you also have indicated that advanced spirits do not perform a creation function for new life forms and living matter, but that these are actually done by the Creator himself. Is that your view--have I stated that correctly?
Spirit Guide: That is true.
Discussion
The spirit guides have previously indicated that they believe there is no location which serves as a nursery for young spirits prior to their first incarnation. They say, though, that there are advanced spirits who work with children that have had a traumatic death on earth. They also indicate that certain spirits on the other side specialize in teaching morality, values and standards of conduct.
The spirit guides agree with Michael Newton's research subjects that there are spirits who are concentrating on raising the consciousness of earth as a whole. Alarmingly, they also suggest that they themselves, and all of the earth's individual spirit guides, are currently working to raise the consciousness of humans and may be too late doing so.
The spirit guides have also indicated in previous sessions that creation of living and non-living objects is performed by the Creator, and accordingly they believe there are no specialized spirits performing these functions.
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There is nothing very outstanding about this house, though it is incomparably more beautiful now than its counterpart in which I lived when on earth. But it suits my purpose. Heaven and Earth, Chapt. 1
Fortunately for many of us similarly situated, it is not at all necessary to make elaborate plans, provided we know in our minds what it is we want. If we have some moderately clear conception of our needs, the perceptive faculties of the architects of these and other realms can quickly ascertain exactly what is required. That, of course, applies to all of us here. The experts in the numerous crafts will soon gather what we desire, and in most instances will make capital suggestions of which one never dreamt. A final and complete plan is made, however, for the masons, and that our friendly architect now proceeded to do. Heaven and Earth, Chapt. 1
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: How are houses created in heaven for those spirits who choose to have a earth-like environment at that time in their development?
Spirit Guide: They are chosen to be mental and heartfelt energy that they are when they create whatever it is they choose to have in their home. You must understand that these are not truly three-dimensional homes like you see on earth but are the images of what is in their heart and where they wish to live. These are not permanent dwellings or three-dimensional dwellings as you see them, but they are what the spirit is seeking.
Discussion
The spirit guides disagree with the information contained in Heaven and Earth in that they believe that there is nothing in heaven like the house creation process on earth, involving spiritual architects and crafts, and that the result is not a three-dimensional home but rather the energy of these surroundings.
Feeling of Higher Force during Meeting with Council of Elders
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Quote: During the time we are meeting with the Council of Elders there is the overwhelming feeling of an even higher force which is simply called "the Presence." Many subjects state, "This is as close to God as we get." My more advanced clients, who are nearing the end of their regular incarnations, indicate that they don't think the Presence is God, exactly. To them it is a deified entity, or entities, with capabilities immensely superior to those on the council. Destiny of Souls, p.243
Spirit Guide Commentary
Question: Is there an overwhelming feeling among those that are meeting with their Council of Elders that there exists the presence of an even higher force, an entity or entities with capabilities immensely superior to those on the Council, but not God?
Spirit Guide: There are many other spirit guides who are there, who are very advanced. They do not participate directly but when called upon will come to help the spirit guides, or help the angels, and will at times sit with the spirit who is about to return and share his wisdom of being a more highly evolved spirit, but this does not happen often.
Question: So the spirit who is meeting with their Council of Elders might feel the existence of some advanced presence beyond those from the members of the council?
Spirit Guide: This is true, especially when the spirit that is going to reincarnate is going to be responsible for many hundreds of lives as he grows older on earth. He will often be faced with these more highly evolved wise spirit guides.
Discussion
The spirit guides agree with the results obtained from Michael Newton's clients that the presence of a higher force can often sensed when meeting with their Council of Elders. They associate this, however, especially when the circumstances of the next life for the reincarnating spirit appear to be of high importance to others on earth.